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Get Ready for Boot-camp: Welcome to the Marine Family

Your son or daughter has signed with the most elite military force in the United States, in the world. Keep in mind that as your recruit becomes physically and mentally prepared to leave for boot-camp, so should you prepare. This will be a period of reflections for you as a parent, for good wishes, for laughter and for tears. All of us as “Marine Moms/ Marine Parents” have been in your shoes. We have been through the emotions that you are feeling, and we have many moments to share with you. We have not stopped experiencing the emotions as many of us have recent graduates from Parris Island.

While your recruit is getting ready to leave and enter boot-camp at Parris Island, the time is also for you to prepare yourself. A knowledgeable and well-informed parent/mom/dad is a parent who can share in the many experiences with their recruit.

For this reason, we recommend becoming informed, whether it is by reading, reviewing tapes, or surfing the internet. Here is a list of books, tapes, and web sites that are recommended, if you so desire:

Books:

"Keeping Faith" by John Schaeffer and Frank Schaeffer
"Faith of our Sons" by John Schaeffer
"Into the Crucible" by James Woulfe, Victor H. Krulak
"The Boot" by Daniel Da Cruz

Tapes:

"Making of a Marine"
"The Crucible – The New, the Proud"

(These and other titles can be purchased from Good to Go Videos at 1 (800) 444-3348 or at www.goodtogo1.com.)

Websites:

www.marinemomsonline.net/
www.marineparents.net/usmc/
b47.ezboard.com/bparrisisland
www.mcrdpi.usmc.mil/          
www.grunt.com

In the event you wish to go shopping for your future recruit, www.grunt.com is a terrific online catalog for marine specialties. You can also contact grunt.com via phone at 1 (866) 776-2607.

Below you will find a new training matrix for boot-camp, a list of hotels to stay for when your recruit graduates and overall general information. Please take time to read and look over the material. As fellow “Marine Moms,” we are here to support you and to help you through this time period. You will find yourself experiencing many emotions through boot-camp, as it is a “sea of emotions” for parents.

In the end, you will sit in the bleachers at graduation and feel the pride that we all have.

Feel free to contact us at any time for questions, or for support. Semper Fi Parents of the Hudson Valley, New York, based out of Poughkeepsie, New York, is your local support group for Marine Parents. We would like you to join us. For further information, please contact: Paula Zwillinger at home – 1 (914) 474-2295 (cell).

Per the Marine Moms Online Web Site –

“We in Marine Moms Online dedicate this site to our sons and daughter – our U. S. Marines. These outstanding young Americans have chosen to give themselves, in fact, their very lives in defense of our country and our freedom. Their commitment, courage and dedication are unequal, as is the pride we have in each of them. We in Marine Moms Online dedicate ourselves to supporting each other, our Marines, and the Corps, always faithful in knowing the honor of being the family member of a . . . United States Marine.

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Helpful Hints

Within the first few hours of “receiving”, you will receive a phone call, which only lasts about 10 seconds, stating that your recruit has safely arrived at Parris Island. There is not much dialogue on this phone call and it is scripted.

Within the first week, you will receive a post card directing you how to address mail to your recruit. This is usually done in the following fashion –

Rct Last Name, First Name
PLT #, Battalion, Company
PO Box 13073 – last 4 digits of your recruits social security #
MCRD Parris Island, SC 29905-Plt #

The first mailing that you receive from your recruit will take approximately 2 – 4 weeks, depending if he/she likes to write letters. Keep in mind, that they are going though an adjustment period – many are tired and homesick, and will only get a brief time to write once lights go out, or on Sunday during 4 hours of liberty.

Do not mail any treats, candy or goodies to your recruit. Do not send anything to them unless they request it, as each platoon varies on the direction of the drill instructors. Packages are opened in front of the drill instructors. Do not send any mail UPS as the recruits cannot sign for the receiving of the package. Priority Mailing is acceptable.

Since time is of an essence to your recruit when they write letters, it is helpful if you send self-addressed, stamped envelopes to them with your mailings. Even though as parents you may wish for more mail from them, keep writing to your recruit with words of encouragement. Pictures can be sent, but do not send any copy of the training matrix.

If you find that you are not getting the info from your recruit that you would like, it is suggested to send them a letter, and then enclose a questionnaire – leaving a space for the answer. This has worked very well and it gives you the info that you directly would like to hear.

Over time, be sure to ask them where they stand in formation/drill and keep this in mind when Family Day and Graduation Day arrive, as you will be able spot your Marine more easily.

As the end of boot-camp nears, there will be much focus on the “Crucible”. This is a 3-day event that starts at 0200, where the recruits march, participate in obstacles/ challenges/teamwork and are low on meals, sleep and ongoing patience. It is the true test when they march back to their barracks for their Warrior Breakfast.

Liberty Sunday is the Sunday prior to Family Day/Graduation, and is a much-awaited event. They are able to call home during this liberty, and their phone call is much awaited from a parents’ perspective. This will be the first time that you will hear your recruit’s voice since they left for Parris Island (PI). Somewhere as this time gets closer, it is highly suggested to send them a phone card in your mailing so that they may call you from a pay phone.

Unfortunately, they only are able to speak for approximately 10 minutes, but these 10 minutes you will cherish and remember over and over again.

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Family Day and Graduation

Family Day is the Day previous to Graduation and is on a Thursday. This day starts with the “Moto Run” which is a “last horrah run” for these new marines, where they run around the base, ringing battalion bells. Family is able to see this event, but it starts at 0615 in the morning.

Shortly thereafter your recruit will receive his EGA – Eagle, Globe and Anchor – he has now earned the title of a Marine. This is open for family to view and is a much-awaited event. It is one to remember. After the “EGA”, your recruit now has 6 hours of liberty on the base with his/her family. This is a time for touring the base together, shopping at the PX and the clothing store and enjoying a lunch, which can be brought in or delivered to the base.  Keep in mind that your recruit cannot leave the base during this time. You can bring treats from home if you so desire. Big Joe’s Bar-B-Q delivers delicious “home-cooking” and will deliver to the parade deck. Call 843-770-0711. There is also a Domino’s Pizza nearby, or stop by the supermarket to bring picnic items in.

Where to Stay?

Name Rating* Address City Phone#
Atlantic Inn No rating Highway 21 Beaufort (843) 524-6024
Battery Creek Inn Expensive 19 Marina Blvd. Port Royal 521-1441
Beaufort Lodge OK 1630 Ribaut Road Beaufort (888) 524-5600
Best Western Sea Island Inn Good 1015 Bay Street Beaufort 800) 528-1234
Budget Inn No rating 2523 Boundary Street Beaufort 522-3361
Comfort Inn of Beaufort OK 2227 Boudnary Street Beaufort (800) 423-8466
Days Inn No rating 1660 Ribaut Road Port Royal (800) 329-7466
Economy Inn of Port Royal OK 1360 Ribaut Road Port Royal 524-9333
Hampton Inn Good 2342 Boundary Street Beaufort 1-800-HAMPTON
Howard Johnson Very Good 3651 Trask Parkway Beaufort (843) 524-6020
Lord Carteret Motel No rating 301 Carteret Street Beaufort 521-1121
Ramada Limited Very Good 2001 Boundary Street Beaufort (843) 524-2144
Royal Frogmore Inn Expensive 863 Sea Island Parkway Frogmore 838-5400
Scottish Inn OK 2221 Boundary Street Beaufort (800) 251-1962
Super 8 Motel No rating 1360 S. Ribaut Road Beaufort (800) 800-8000
         

*These ratings are not of personal experience, but from other parents. 

What to Do on Family Day?

  1. Tour the Parris Island Museum
  2. Bus Tours at 10:00 and 11:00 – on a first come, first served basis; Departs from Douglas Visitor’s Center
  3. Barracks Open House – 1:30-4:00
  4. Pugil Stick Brief at Leatherneck Square – 1:30-4:30
  5. Combat Survival Swimming at the indoor pool
  6. Weapons Display at Rifle Range – 1:30-5:00
  7. Get your personal tour from your Marine

Graduation Day is the next day on Friday at 0900. It is held on the Parade Deck and the metal bleachers are marked with the platoon numbers. This makes good viewing for your particular platoon; it also makes it easier for your new marine to find you after the ceremony, which lasts approximately 1.5 hours. After dismissal, your marine is now ready to leave the island.

Portraits that were taken with your recruit in dress blues are sent home with the recruit. They will choose the picture plan and you will not see these until Family Day/Graduation Day.    

Your recruit will have the opportunity to apply for a credit union and should do so sometime prior to his departure from PI. The Navy Credit Union is located on PI.

In the event you wish to purchase dress blues for your new Marine, this can also be done at the clothing store prior to leaving.

Shopping at the PX is on the base and you will find that you will purchase many Marine related souvenirs.

Returning home, your new Marine now has 2 large, heavy sea bags along with a dress bag. Keep in mind that besides your luggage, he will have these to bring home. These sea bags are checked at the airports.

There are many more helpful hints and message boards on-line. Your will find tear jerking poems, and many moms/parents start scrap-booking with the many pictures that they will collect.
 
After being online and finding the support that you crave, you will say to yourself –
"Thanks for this web site. I'm no less worried, but a lot less alone. Thank you."**

**Courtesy of www.marineparents.com

Best of luck to you and your new Marine. Semper Fi!

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Deployment Day

Deployment. If you haven't experienced it yet, TRUST ME, you will. Although you may be dreading the situation, if you understand it, in time you will be able to handle any deployment situation with grace & strength. Don't get me wrong, watching your Marine deploy is never easy, but realizing the phases that you and your spouse will face makes it all that much easier!

From the time your boyfriend, fiancee, or husband receives orders, until well after he is home, you will experience a myriad of different emotions - it is important to recognize where these emotions are coming from!

Common Emotions Associated with Deployment
You
Your Marine
Pre Deployment
  • Anxiety
  • Depression
  • Sadness
  • Fear
  • Anger
  • Helplessness
  • Anxiety
  • Uncertainty
  • Sadness
  • Fear
  • Brotherhood
  • Bonding between fellow Marines
  • Anger
During Deployment
  • Detachment
  • Disorganization
  • Longing for Companionship
  • Lonliness
  • Feeling like others don't understand
  • Anger
  • Anxiety for Marine's Return
  • Lack of Security
  • Detachment
  • Homesickness
  • Separation Anxiety
  • Depression
  • Brotherhood
  • A Sense of Accomlishment
  • Anxiety to return home
Post Deployment
  • Disorganization
  • Anger
  • Happiness
  • Sense of Security
  • Detachment
  • Sense of Distance between you & your loved one
  • Feeling Forgotten
  • Unappreciated
  • Need to Reassociate with Prior Roll
  • Desire to return to familiar surroundings deployment
  • Disorganization
  • Happiness

As MC Loved ones, we typically face the same basic stages of deployment. Being aware of these stages can reduce the confusion and disorganization associated with deployments, and thus, can aide as a coping mechanism.

  • Stage 1: Anticipation of Deployment:  This stage occurs prior to deployment, typically 1-6 weeks before the Marine is deployed, but can start even earlier. During this stage, you may encounter a feeling of loss or dread. You may cry a lot, snap at your friends and family - in fact, many couples report fighting like cats and dogs prior to a deployment. You (and your Marine Loved one) may feel constant exhaustion, a lack of enthusiasm, and find yourselves on edge.
  • Use this stage to get your necessary arrangements in order (POA, Bank Accounts), which will give you more quality time with your Marine immediately prior to his deployment.
  • During this phase, your Marine is likely experiencing some of the same emotions you are, adjusting to the idea that he soon will be apart from everything familiar that he knows. He may be detached from you, not want to talk about his feelings or about the deployment in general.
  • Stage 2: Detachment: This stage occurs immediately before deployment (typically within 1 week before the Marine is deployed), and is characterized by a feeling of hopelessness, and stress. Like stage one, you may find yourself easily irritated, and for many couples, the physical relationship may lack.
  • Although stress level is high, use this time to devote to quality time with your Marine.
  • During this stage, your Marine may grow anxious to leave. He may also grow detached from you, a natural response to making "good-by" a bit easier.
  • Stage 3: Disorganization: This stage takes precedence up to 8 weeks after deployment (but can last longer). With your Marine gone, you may feel mentally and physically disorganized in your life. You may feel anxious, and feel as if you don't know what to do with yourself anymore.
  • This stage is the best time to keep yourself busy. Take up new projects, go out with friends, re-organize your life. It's important to get into a new routine during this time - and this stage is a great time to reach out to your support group (whether it be your friends, a spouse group on base, or your family).
  • During this phase, your Marine is deployed (whether at training, or overseas). He is probably feeling homesick, lost, and at the same time experiencing amazing feelings of brother/sisterhood and bonding with his fellow Marines.
  • Stage 4: Anticipation of Return: You'll encounter this phase up to 8 weeks prior to your Marine's Return. During this time, you may find yourself snappy, worried, short-tempered, and experiencing unfounded fears. Many women report feeling anxious and full of worry about what their Marine will be like upon return (Will he break up with me? Does he still want me? will he still think I look the same?)
  • During this time your Marine experiences extreme anxiousness about his/her return home. He may also be fearful of his return & reintegration into family & a more civilian-like life.
  • Stage 5: Re-Organization: This phase takes place up to 8 weeks post-deployment. You will be eager for your relationship to return to normal. You will find that often your Marine will seem distant, may not want to talk, and no matter how hard you want it to, often times your relationship will not return to normal so quickly. You are both trying to adjust to having each other again (especially if you live together), and you may find yourselves arguing in an effort to reorganize.
  • Your Marine may come back a changed person, in some cases he may want to be left alone, have time to reflect and slowly ease back into his prior roll.
  • It is very important to give your Marine his space - try not to bombard him with tasks and demands. As his Girlfriend, Fiancee, or Spouse, you don't have a complete understanding of what he has endured (Unless you are a Marine yourself), so it is important to let him ease back into things.

** Knowing these stages will help you as you face each deployment, and remember, we all face these stages (at least on the first deployment). It's important to remember that these stages are temporary - knowing that they will happen, and when they will happen makes coping a bit easier. Above all, remember to try to keep a positive attitude throughout the entire process.
For more information please visit: http://www.mccsonesource.com

Click here: I Marine Expeditionary Force (FWD) Official Public Website
Find out what regimntal combat team your Marine/Sailor  is with. This website is fairly easy to navigate on the left hand side you wil see all units deployed within the 1 Marine Expeditionary Force and the 2. Most units serving in Iraq fallunder that category .

Click here: LIFELines DetailRight

Welcome to the "Deployment" Section of LIFELines Family Life!
The Navy and Marine Corps understand the questions and worries that arise as you prepare for a deployment - often to remote parts of the globe.
From Pre-Deployment planning and the emotions you might experience through the joyful reunion, the LIFELines Deployment Readiness Section, provides information and resources that can lessen the strain of deployment on you and your family.

When Your Son or Daughter Is Deployed 

By LIFELines Research Staff
(Last Reviewed Thursday, December 08, 2005)

Goodbye to Deployed Children
A son’s or daughter’s deployment can stir up conflicting emotions in a parent. While you are proud of your service member’s accomplishments, you may be concerned for his or her safety, especially if the deployment is to an area of conflict. It’s important to keep in mind that your son or daughter is capable, trained, and well equipped to carry out his or her mission. Also remember that the best thing you can do for your son or daughter is to offer your support and encouragement.

 

Preparing for deployment
Before your son or daughter deploys discuss a plan for staying in touch. You should know:

  • The address to send letters and care packages. The address should include your service member’s full name (with or without rank or rating), unit, and APO/FPO (Air/Army Post Office or Fleet Post Office) address. Be sure you have the unit name, including the battalion, ship, squadron, platoon, etc.
  • Your service member’s social security number. Keep this handy in case you have to find your son or daughter in an emergency.
  • If your son or daughter will have e-mail access. If so, don’t expect instantaneous communication. Depending on where your service member is stationed, e-mail may be sporadic.
  • Roughly how long before your letters and/or e-mails will be answered. While it’s impossible to say for certain, your service member may be able to tell you that he or she will be so busy during the first few weeks that there may be little time to write.
  • Whether you will receive phone calls, and if so, roughly how often and for how long.
  • How you can get information about your son’s or daughter’s unit. Find out from your service member’s base command whether any of the following options are available to you:
    • Command and unit newsletters. These may be online or in hard copy. To be included on the distribution list, your service member will need to provide your information to his or her unit.
    • Phone trees. Volunteers at home pass along information to family members from the command.
    • Volunteer family support groups. Each branch of the armed forces offers support networks for families, though support for parents of deployed service members varies according to the policies of the unit. Depending on your service member’s branch, you may be able to receive information from the unit’s Air Force Family Readiness Program, Army Family Readiness Group, Marine Corps Key Volunteer Network, or Navy Ombudsman or Family Support Groups.
    • Command and unit Web sites. Many commands and units have their own Web sites, which may include videos and pictures.


If your service member is married, the service branch has an obligation only to communicate with his or her spouse, so you may have to get your information through your son-or-daughter-in-law. Be aware that communication with your service member may be difficult for reasons including power outages, travel, and
remote locations. Also, there may be limitations on what your service member can reveal to you, such as precise locations and activities.

Remember, no news is often good news. Your service member may be wrapped up in mission operations and unable to communicate. In a serious emergency, the family will be notified through official channels.

PTSD

PTSD… By Sue Davis-Mendelow, Professor, M.S.W.

He has just returned from Iraq or Afghanistan and you as his mom or dad are so relieved, happy to see him, hug him, know that he is safe, at least for now. Yet something is off. He’s tight, a bit removed, not quite leaning into that gripping hug you give him. It’s not you despite what you might think.  What you might be seeing is called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, aka, PTSD. This is not culture shock, nor your common garden variety crisis. This is not a “bit” of anxiety, nor being in a “pissy” mood. So what is it then?

PTSD – WHAT IS IT?
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is a condition where the person has experienced extreme circumstances that are not typical of everyday living. While one can be in crisis from more common situations (i.e. minor car accident, losing a job) this rarely promotes PTSD. PTSD is a collection of feelings, thoughts, behaviors and physical status that are in reaction to the traumatic event(s). What is prevalent is the inability to forget or disassociate from the event which then can be triggered by normal everyday dealings. These might include; dropping a metal bowl which results in a very loud ringing noise, or touching their arm to awaken them, or a low level anxiety which will quickly escalate to an all consuming anxiety felt in every part of the body and mind or an increasing intensity of whatever physical problem or injury they may have already sustained. PTSD without intervention is overwhelming, pervasive, escalating but is a reasonable reaction given the traumatic event. It will become a traumatic event in itself if left without attention.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
Firstly it should be said that PTSD shows itself differently for different people. However we do see some commonalities. For example, in terms of the emotional component anxiety is highly common and often very intense. Panic can easily follow which results in an inability to concentrate, difficulty relating to others, fearfulness of being touched or of noises and the belief that one is going crazy or going to die. This would be especially relevant for our boys who have been in combat and have some real life experience with the possibility of imminent death. The behavioral component will lead to crying with the feeling that one can’t stop, hiding, unwillingness to leave a confined space in search of safety, yelling, screaming, and so the list continues. Cognitively, thought processes can be compromised. Remember the last time you felt anxious or fearful. Wasn’t it difficult to think straight, to concentrate or to remember what someone just told you? Now multiply it ten fold. All your focus is on trying to stay safe, to protect yourself, to get “away” from your memories, to even look and act normal when you sure don’t feel that way. Finally, physically the body reacts to all this turmoil, especially if an injury has occurred. When one is highly anxious the old, “Flight or Fight” response kicks in. This means adrenaline increases and prepares the body to fight the perceived danger or to take flight and get away from the danger. It doesn’t matter that at this moment there is no real danger. The body doesn’t physically distinguish between real danger and perceived danger. What the body will do is increase the heart rate and circulation to increase oxygen. One’s pupils will dilate to let more light in, muscles will tense in readiness to fight or flee, stomach and intestines will cramp in the bodies effort to get rid of the need for digestion as it has more important things to do. These physical reactions in themselves will often cause more anxiety unless they are really understood by the person. As well, pain is heightened. Chemical changes will in fact intensify the experience of pain.

WHAT ARE THEIR SYMPTOMS?
Given the intensity, it is no wonder that someone living with PTSD will do nearly anything to reduce these experiences. That means they will over medicate themselves with prescriptions drugs, they will engage in substance abuse be it cigarettes, alcohol or street drugs. They will over sleep in an effort to escape the unforgettable memories or they may not be able to sleep much at all because their dreams are powerfully painful and anxiety producing. They often have trouble eating because the gut is tight; they feel almost nauseous with panic. They often do not want to see people as it takes too much effort and they don’t know how to relate to people they know – especially for our boys when it comes to being with civilians. They also experience feelings of self-depreciation, feeling weak, embarrassed, filled with shame, humiliated and guilt at causing such family disruption. They may experience sexual dysfunction which heightens all the above. They will very likely experience what we call, Survivor’s Guilt – that is feeling guilty because you have survived when another Marine did not. They will often have a very short fuse and can be set off by little things. This is especially difficult if they have young children. And most of all, they cannot believe how they are behaving. They cannot believe who they think they have become. They don’t recognize themselves and cannot figure out the road back home. PTSD is a continuing process of layers upon layers of pain, anxiety and fear and the truth is most people cannot cope and get through this on their own. And…you as their parent, spouse, child, sibling, etc. cannot talk them down or use logical to help them see they are now safe. It won’t work because PTSD is not about logical. They need professional help.

INTERVENTION
So, how do we help? Firstly, it is most important to really understand a few things from an outside perspective. This is not your fault, nor is it theirs. You did not make this happen, you cannot “fix” it alone. Saying the “right” words will not make it go away and you cannot pretend you know what they are going through. And as importantly, that is not what they need from you.

Secondly, they are unlikely to be able to find the help they need by themselves partly because this is a new experience for them, partly because they are unfamiliar with the resources and partly, and probably most importantly because they feel they should be able to master this by themselves. They need to hear that this is not the case – pure and simple.

As their loved one, you need to be calm and patient. If he doesn’t want to be touched then don’t touch him. If they are screaming from a dream, even just sitting with them, helping them to breath, offering them some sense of calmness may help. Talking to them softly, slowly, calmly. Giving permission for their feelings. Telling them that how they feel, how their behaving is a normal set of responses to horrible and extraordinary situations. If they can talk, let them. Don’t interrupt or talk over them or try to diminish the severity of their stories. Listen; really listen to their stories no matter how painful it is for you. Hear their hurt and fear and use encouragers such as, “Tell me more.”, “What happened then?” They will repeat their stories over and over. This is to be expected. If they can talk, it is a good thing. If they can’t talk it will make this process more difficult, but don’t push. They are not ready.
You also need to help them find a professional of some kind who is trained to deal with PTSD. There are numerous counselors, therapists, social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists who are especially trained in working with PTSD. One of the factors that is often the case for our boys, is they want to talk with someone who has been there, done that – meaning someone who has been in combat and understands what they are talking about. There are programs outside the military such as Counseling One. There are volunteer individuals and groups who are combat experienced and will talk and spend time with our boys suffering from PTSD. There are also medications which can help take the edge off the panic enough so that the person can use treatments. Often group counseling is effective when the group is comprised of combat experience men, again, because they really understand what it is like. You can communicate with other military family members for resources, talk with a trusted family doctor or spiritual leader.

WHAT ABOUT YOU?
To conclude this piece without discussing you would be neglectful. While he is going through PTSD and you are not shouldn’t imply that you are home free. You, as his loved one are suffering with him as you watch him cry, or pull away, or drink half a bottle of whiskey or down a case of brew. While you are working at helping him, how do you help yourself? Here are some suggestions.

  1. Make sure you take as good care of yourself physically as you can…that means sleep, eating well, getting some free time for you, exercise, etc.
  2. Don’t be afraid to cry, feel sad and/or worried. Don’t be afraid to talk about this with those you trust and who can provide comfort. This is not about weakness; this is about pain. You wouldn’t hide it if his legs were broken.
  3. Recognize that this affects you too
  4. Keep remembering that his PTSD is not in reaction to or about you and what you are doing. It is about his traumatic experiences. So try to separate emotionally from feeling responsible. This will help you be there for him in more supportive ways
  5. While you are working on getting him help (if he’s willing), get support for you too.
  6. Go for counseling for yourself or join one of the many groups out there for military families
  7. Read about PTSD to help you better understand what is happening for him and for you. Just google it
  8. Finally, be patient. While this may have happened in the space of a few gun firing, rocket launching, ear splitting, buddies dying minute, it will not fade away in the same time frame. It will take time, Lots of time, lots of revealing and lots of courage. But it can be done.

Please note that this is a brief overview of the subject as it has a long history beginning with “shell shock” in WW1 & 2. Also, there are several specific newer treatments you can learn about.  If you have any questions or concerns don’t hesitate to contact me at suetrek@eol.ca.

 

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